the truth about messiah and what he acheived in the 1st century is something millions of believers in christ refuse to accept namely the historical record of things all fulfilled in that momentous 1st century.it is rejected because the -isms, man made doctrines, theologies, false teachings etc etc that abound since then and so millions have allowed themselves to be brainwashed,conditioned into.
the reality is so simple if one lets messiah remain with his intent and meaning.
but if we change his own words, we become divided.
I have come to deny "Jesus in Kingdom Power" because of the ineffectual ness of his Kingdom Rule over the past 100 years.--------
NOW you are telling us he has been at it for 2000 years.
Open your eyes. Is this world really under the Kingship of a benevolent Messiah?
Pass the Koop-aid.
brant
when one looks back retrospectively at the very beginning of this organization, you could see that the wts.. was on a structural platform of success, created by cunningly created doctrines, such as the invisible return of.
christ, the end times and the imminently soon to come armageddon, all bundled together.. .. this religious organization like so many others established in the united states was unregulated and had.
no upper governing control over its daily operations.. they proclaimed and taught what they wanted to or needed to sustain their operations as a publishing house.. .
I have read all the posts and want to add one element that has not been injected into the conversation.
not all elders are in it for the power that they can wield over others----but ALL elders enjoy the elevated position and recognition that they receive. This is especially true re: elders like thedog. They delight in being "nice, sweet, concerned, kindly, watchful, helpful"----because they gain a recognition that the "enforcement" types cannot achieve.
i know this to be true. I was an elder for 30 years. For about half the time I was young and 'pushy' a real enforcer---I thought I was there as a cherub or seraph, can't remember which angels were in charge of enforcement and keeping the organization clean, but whichever, that's what I thought it was.
Later, as I matured, I became an elder like the dog is imagining himself to be.
Most people want recognition so I am not downing the dog, but he does need to understand that, like it or not, he loves the recognition that he gets from being a "loving" (and all the rest of the adjectives) elder.
thats my story and I'm sticking to it.
Brant
in the video clip dennis meets kim jong-eun shows him a display of his vodka and introduces the two teams at the basketball match.. its unclear in the video whether rodman is offering a gift to jong-eun or is selling his vodka to nk.
if he's selling it - its a violation of us.
law.
I wouldn't let the bastard back into the country.
need to rename him "JANE" Rodman.
the latest statistics from the year book seems to indicated that no great increase of leavers, so why is the org seem to be acting like thier worried?
more talks about apostates, more asking for money, more talks about loyalty, etc.
what's up?.
It's like trying to sell tickets to re-runs.
Brant
i have had very few mentors in my life.
i love each of them dearly.. one such was a man a bit older than me named tollie padget.. .
tollie was the rarest of rare birds.
Terry,
I too was in prison during 66-68. First in Tucson, then transferred by way of La Tuna, El Reno, to the MCFP in Springfield, Mo.
In 2005 when I left the Borg, I tried to contact several of old dear friends with regard to the UN situation. NOT ONE of my former prison buddies listened AT ALL.
It is like their should was stolen from them. I tried to reason with a couple of the on the verse, "present your bodies as a sacrifice to God, ALONG WITH YOUR POWER OF REASON."
Heartbreaker for me too. One, a Tom V. From Colorado had even quit for 10 years over hurt feelings (like it's ok to quit over that) but over very important doctrinal issues, you can't have the audacity to require truthfulness and honesty from the organization.
mind control is a powerful thing.
Brant
hello everyone, i know you have heard this topic before and your probably thinking.
...not again lol.. but i was wondering if anyone has thought of going back for the same reasons as myself, i don't think its the truth but i searched and my conclusion is that other religions don't have the truth, they are all wrong in my opinion.
if there is no other religion to go too, why leave were i was born and raised.
Excalibur,
I hope you know I was funning with you. There is some truth in the abuse at the hall. I felt like I had a target on my back for years, and I was an elder.
brant
jw literature is racist as hell.
jesus looks like an american folk singer, the governing body look like a corrupt version of an enron luncheon.. the jw's literally print different magazines for africa with african pictures, black people instead of white, to make it 'more appealing' to them.... just to be clear that means they think the opposite is true too!.
....and then there is the lack of black angels..... .
I thought angels were invisible.
part 3. pioneer survival school with hilly and hoppy.. .
one of my first duties was organizing the twice a week door to door service.
but our two older brothers, hilly and hoppy, kept ducking me.
Just lie, (about your hours) like momma, the WT Society and their illustrious governing body.
brant
generally i found most people were pretty apathetic and often surprisingly tolerant , but we've all had some bad ones.
looking back , here were my worst couple of experiences - there probably were others but i've probably long forgotten them or blanked them off.. i was a kid of maybe 13 & it was bitterly cold & pouring with rain.
i was working alone in a middle class street near my school where i knew a lot of my school teachers lived & was scared stiff at every door half the time pretending to press bells , doing the fake knock etc.
I was threatened with a gun twice, assaulted and beat around the head and shoulders once.
brant
hello everyone, i know you have heard this topic before and your probably thinking.
...not again lol.. but i was wondering if anyone has thought of going back for the same reasons as myself, i don't think its the truth but i searched and my conclusion is that other religions don't have the truth, they are all wrong in my opinion.
if there is no other religion to go too, why leave were i was born and raised.
Excaliber----I'll make you a deal.
Whenever you get the urge to return to the Kh, instead of going back to that god-forsaken hell-hole, just come by and see me and I will kick your ass and treat you abusively so you get than warm feeling of belonging, and you don't even have to waste your time at the meetings.
do we hve a deal?
brant
